Organizations need to let go of waterfall and process-oriented models where each unit or individual works only for a particular role/function, without overseeing the complete picture. They need to act as product companies that explicitly focus on building working products sold to real customers, and all employees need to share the engineering mindset that is required actually to envision and realize those products. Michiel will share with you why having the right skills and knowledge is crucial for organizations that don’t want to talk about DevOps, but do it.